Nov 24, 2015

Data is Critical to Our Business. Q&A with Geri Wang of ABC



Geri Wang started as a physical therapy major in college but later changed to communications. Upon graduation she landed her first job working for Helen Johnston at Grey Advertising as a media research analyst. From there Wang was recruited by ABC where she excelled.

Wang is currently President of Sales and leads a team of nearly 300 and is responsible for advertising sales and integrated marketing across the entire ABC portfolio including, ABC Primetime, Daytime, News, Late-Night, Digital, Disney/ABC Domestic Television Syndication Group, Fusion and ABC Sales Development. 

She will be honored at the John A. Reisenbach Foundation on December 1, 2015.

In this fascinating interview, Wang talks about the media landscape, ABC’s portfolio of content, the importance of Research, Data and Analytics, the future of media with cross platform measurement and connected TVs and how mentoring is an important contribution to the future of the industry.

Charlene Weisler: Sales has become increasingly dependent on research and data. What is your opinion of that trend?

Geri Wang: Sales has always depended on research and data but now it is even more critical. I love the fact that data is so important. I am a self-professed research and numbers fanatic. We use data and analytical skills to help identify and activate new business metrics in the evolving media environment. 

It is a marriage of art and science. Sales has always interpreted data in order to discover who our audience is, the profile of that audience and to decide the right media choice for our advertisers. Now there is even more data available to us that is targeted and precise. Data is my first love and the foundation of everything we do.


Charlene Weisler: I have noticed that many Research Departments have been displaced by Data Analytics Departments

Geri Wang: I wouldn’t say that. Data Analytics is a complementary team to Research and they work side by side. Research has not been displaced. But we are expanding and developing a new skill set and are building our corporate muscle.

Charlene Weisler: Is there a future for traditional Research?

Geri Wang: I think that the word “traditional” has become pejorative. The ground is moving under our feet. Everything has to evolve and we all have to innovate. How we sell, research, analyze through targeting and automating allows for bigger possibilities.

Charlene Weisler: How would you say the sales function has changed since you first entered the industry?

Geri Wang: We are building an organization where everyone is expanding their skill set. We sell video on all platforms and on all screens. I’d like to think we have evolved to a more consultative, more idea-driven solution conversation with our advertisers. The best partnerships with our clients involve ideas. We started in sales as great negotiators and account people but now we are marketing partners in such diverse areas as integrated marketing, sponsorship, pro-mercials, product placement, traditional brand marketing, etc. In certain cases we get to be part of the strategic conversation about how a client is thinking about their business and included in short term activation and long term strategic roadmap of where a brand is headed.

Charlene Weisler: How important is data to your job? What data sets are most important?

Geri Wang: It is critical. Our business intelligence is based on micro and macro sets of data. We use Nielsen which is the traditional syndicated research company and now we have many, many more partners. We are getting smarter in how we are using data for both internal and external decision making.

Nielsen is the currency so we want to make sure that their measurement and methodology is keeping pace with consumer behavior. There are cool things about all of the new datasets which we can append for better and more informed decisions for clients.

Charlene Weisler: Do you think we will get to a standard cross platform measurement within the next two years? Why or why not?

Geri Wang: This is the Holy Grail – to be able to measure total impressions on every screen. We don’t care where you watch. We are selling units and impressions. I hope that we can get to a standard cross platform measurement. But hope is not a strategy. We are working closely with multiple partners to get to that goal. Also, we need much better media models that can talk about attribution. It is critical for the business. .

Charlene Weisler: How will connected TVs impact your side of the business?

Geri Wang: It is going to be a great viewer experience and value proposition because of the better user interface. High quality video companies like ABC will be the winners. The future is less about channels and more about programming services. We have cools apps for all of our properties and have been in that business since Day One.

Charlene Weisler: Where do you see programmatic going for TV – both local and national, broadcast and cable?

Geri Wang: We have the privilege and benefit of high demand. Depending on how you define programmatic – if Programmatic means dumping your low value inventory, then we are not in that business. If it means automatic buying and selling, we are in that. If it means long form video with more precise targeting, we are in it. The industry is headed there.

Charlene Weisler: Can you give me some predictions of how the media landscape will look 3-5 years from now?

Geri Wang: Our own organization has begun to prepare for the future by offering more consultative services and we will continue to expand that. We are also hyper focused on reaching the consumer in a technologically sophisticated way. As we look at consumer behavior with its infinite choices, we see a shift in traditional viewing. But we know that viewers will still seek out the best entertainment experiences.

I have seen great client collaboration in my career. We at ABC have moved beyond the broadcast model and into such things as in-season stacking, an interest in Hulu and a Sony Vue deal. At the end of the day you have to offer the consumer and the viewer the entertainment experience they want. Period.

Charlene Weisler: I know that you are involved in mentorship. Can you give me more details on your work in that area?

Geri Wang: Yes. I mentor young people through both the National Association of Multi-Ethnicity in Communication and the ABC Media Networks programs. I have had unbelievable and supportive mentors for my entire career. Some were my peers and some were people I worked for.   It is the most generous and greatest gift, all of us should be able to give.

Charlene Weisler: What advice would you give a young graduate today regarding a career in media?

Geri Wang: Media is the most fascinating, dynamic and interesting industry and offers a big fun quotient, alongside complex challenges that are phenomenal puzzles to solve. I cannot think of another industry I would rather work for.

This article first appeared in www.MediaBizBloggers.com

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